Comments on: Windows 7 launches http://www.saunderslog.com/2009/10/22/windows-7-launches/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=windows-7-launches An outcome-driven leader, proven technology product developer, and marketer with over 20 years of hands-on experience including start-up, small and large business environments, and the board room. This is my blog. Thu, 26 Jan 2012 17:15:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Alec http://www.saunderslog.com/2009/10/22/windows-7-launches/#comment-8069 Alec Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:57:59 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2009/10/22/windows-7-launches/#comment-8069 I haven't tried Ubuntu recently. Maybe should have another look. On a related note, I'm definitely going to give this a whirl... <a href="http://www.psystar.com/rebel_efi" rel="nofollow">http://www.psystar.com/rebel_efi</a> I haven't tried Ubuntu recently. Maybe should have another look. On a related note, I'm definitely going to give this a whirl… http://www.psystar.com/rebel_efi

]]> By: Mitch Brisebois http://www.saunderslog.com/2009/10/22/windows-7-launches/#comment-8068 Mitch Brisebois Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:28:43 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2009/10/22/windows-7-launches/#comment-8068 David - I never said Microsoft is old lion with a bad dental plan! It's quite adept at many things. Computing for the masses requires healthy competitors. "penguin" OSs are part of the evolution, perhaps. But the geeks don't seem to think much about usability. That's the downfall of Ubuntu so far. David – I never said Microsoft is old lion with a bad dental plan! It's quite adept at many things. Computing for the masses requires healthy competitors. "penguin" OSs are part of the evolution, perhaps. But the geeks don't seem to think much about usability. That's the downfall of Ubuntu so far.

]]> By: David http://www.saunderslog.com/2009/10/22/windows-7-launches/#comment-8067 David Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:42:23 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2009/10/22/windows-7-launches/#comment-8067 Mitch: I'm with you. Microsoft is an old lion with no teeth, and I think it's silly to worry much about the company any more, even if it does manage an impressive roar like Windows 7 once in a while. The iPod doesn't bother me much, since you can still install songs from other sources (including ripped CDs or Amazon's unprotected MP3s) on it. The iPhone scares me a lot more, because it's a walled garden -- even Microsoft never had the audacity to require all Windows apps to be preapproved by them. Apple is a monopolist like MS never even dreamed of trying to be. Mitch:

I'm with you. Microsoft is an old lion with no teeth, and I think it's silly to worry much about the company any more, even if it does manage an impressive roar like Windows 7 once in a while.

The iPod doesn't bother me much, since you can still install songs from other sources (including ripped CDs or Amazon's unprotected MP3s) on it. The iPhone scares me a lot more, because it's a walled garden — even Microsoft never had the audacity to require all Windows apps to be preapproved by them. Apple is a monopolist like MS never even dreamed of trying to be.

]]> By: David http://www.saunderslog.com/2009/10/22/windows-7-launches/#comment-8066 David Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:34:25 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2009/10/22/windows-7-launches/#comment-8066 There is a third option. If you have an old computer with only 1 GB of RAM, you could also install Ubuntu and avoid buying a new computer at all. Heck, if you have a computer with only 256 MB of RAM, it will still run fine with the latest Ubuntu (slightly slow, but fine). Ubuntu's brought desktop Linux a long way in the last couple of years -- when I installed 9.04, it actually did better working with device drivers, etc. than Vista did (and don't get me started on how hard it is to get third-party hardware working with MacOS -- it's like dealing with Linux 5-10 years ago). I guess my notebook should say "I'm a Penguin." There is a third option.

If you have an old computer with only 1 GB of RAM, you could also install Ubuntu and avoid buying a new computer at all. Heck, if you have a computer with only 256 MB of RAM, it will still run fine with the latest Ubuntu (slightly slow, but fine).

Ubuntu's brought desktop Linux a long way in the last couple of years — when I installed 9.04, it actually did better working with device drivers, etc. than Vista did (and don't get me started on how hard it is to get third-party hardware working with MacOS — it's like dealing with Linux 5-10 years ago). I guess my notebook should say "I'm a Penguin."

]]> By: Mitch Brisebois http://www.saunderslog.com/2009/10/22/windows-7-launches/#comment-8065 Mitch Brisebois Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:31:22 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2009/10/22/windows-7-launches/#comment-8065 Funny, Alec! I agree with your point that the "flamming" PC vs Mac divide only helps both Apple and Microsoft. As David points out it's also very artificial. It is easy to berate Microsoft's OS monopoly, but how many berate Apple for its iTunes 70% marketshare? BTW - Win7 runs great on a MacBook!! Funny, Alec!

I agree with your point that the "flamming" PC vs Mac divide only helps both Apple and Microsoft. As David points out it's also very artificial.

It is easy to berate Microsoft's OS monopoly, but how many berate Apple for its iTunes 70% marketshare?

BTW – Win7 runs great on a MacBook!!

]]> By: Alec http://www.saunderslog.com/2009/10/22/windows-7-launches/#comment-8062 Alec Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:52:56 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2009/10/22/windows-7-launches/#comment-8062 To me it's just branding, David. I have a sticker on my notebook which says "I'm a PC", and I proudly carry it. I've never been able to get past the price premium for Apple hardware. So I don't mind that personal computers for the rest of us are called PC's, and Apple's elitist products are called Mac's in the common vernacular. I actually think it works to Microsoft's advantage, interestingly enough... To me it’s just branding, David. I have a sticker on my notebook which says “I’m a PC”, and I proudly carry it. I’ve never been able to get past the price premium for Apple hardware. So I don’t mind that personal computers for the rest of us are called PC’s, and Apple’s elitist products are called Mac’s in the common vernacular. I actually think it works to Microsoft’s advantage, interestingly enough…

]]> By: Alec http://www.saunderslog.com/2009/10/22/windows-7-launches/#comment-8064 Alec Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:49:00 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2009/10/22/windows-7-launches/#comment-8064 Flamebait, or flamebaited, Mitch? Take your pick! Flamebait, or flamebaited, Mitch? Take your pick!

]]> By: Mitch Brisebois http://www.saunderslog.com/2009/10/22/windows-7-launches/#comment-8063 Mitch Brisebois Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:40:16 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2009/10/22/windows-7-launches/#comment-8063 Just like iPhone is just a phone?? ;) Just like iPhone is just a phone?? ;)

]]> By: David http://www.saunderslog.com/2009/10/22/windows-7-launches/#comment-8061 David Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:43:21 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2009/10/22/windows-7-launches/#comment-8061 "Can those consumers be persuaded to move to Macintosh instead of buying a new PC?" Repeat 10x: The Mac *is* a PC. The Mac *is* a PC. The Mac *is* a PC. The Mac *is* a PC. The Mac *is* a PC. The Mac *is* a PC. The Mac *is* a PC. The Mac *is* a PC. The Mac *is* a PC. The Mac *is* a PC. Sure, a couple of decades ago there was a product called the "IBM PC" and the Mac competed against it, but today, whether they run MacOS, Windows, Linux, FreeBSD, or something else, they're all personal computers. It's sad to see the Mac commercials still rehashing the glory days of the 1980s by using the term "PC" to refer to any computer running MS Windows. "Can those consumers be persuaded to move to Macintosh instead of buying a new PC?"

Repeat 10x:
The Mac *is* a PC.
The Mac *is* a PC.
The Mac *is* a PC.
The Mac *is* a PC.
The Mac *is* a PC.
The Mac *is* a PC.
The Mac *is* a PC.
The Mac *is* a PC.
The Mac *is* a PC.
The Mac *is* a PC.

Sure, a couple of decades ago there was a product called the "IBM PC" and the Mac competed against it, but today, whether they run MacOS, Windows, Linux, FreeBSD, or something else, they're all personal computers. It's sad to see the Mac commercials still rehashing the glory days of the 1980s by using the term "PC" to refer to any computer running MS Windows.

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