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	<title>Comments on: Facebook annoints XMPP, open IM endgame in sight.</title>
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		<title>By: Facebook and XMPP: Old News is Old at Ameliorations 1.0</title>
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		<dc:creator>Facebook and XMPP: Old News is Old at Ameliorations 1.0</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 23:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See, my contacts are completely different. :) 
 
I&#039;ve got 0 MSN, 4 ICQ, 10 Skype and 20 XMPP.  The funniest thing is that the ICQ contacts are all Mac users using iChat. 
 
However, of those 20, I&#039;ve got 2 on their own servers (1 is outsourced to Google), 4 on jabber.org, 6 on the corporate server and 8 on GTalk. 
 
XMPP provides scalability?  Who said that?  XMPP is a protocol.  It makes no claims or recommendations on how to structure the back end for scalability. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, my contacts are completely different. <img src='http://www.saunderslog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I&#039;ve got 0 MSN, 4 ICQ, 10 Skype and 20 XMPP.  The funniest thing is that the ICQ contacts are all Mac users using iChat. </p>
<p>However, of those 20, I&#039;ve got 2 on their own servers (1 is outsourced to Google), 4 on jabber.org, 6 on the corporate server and 8 on GTalk. </p>
<p>XMPP provides scalability?  Who said that?  XMPP is a protocol.  It makes no claims or recommendations on how to structure the back end for scalability.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Collins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 16:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alec,

XMPP sounds like the saviour to all IM based applications but have you ever looked for a developer with experience in this space?

I&#039;m thinking of investing in a topic based web chat application and was originally looking 3-4 months ago at flash based applications.

Everyone is saying No No No you must build in XMPP to get scalability - &quot;it the best thing since sliced bread&quot; etc etc.

So I thought ok fine, might cost a little more to have developed as specialist area but I&#039;m not looking for anything too amazing just a simple proof of concept with the ability to scale out later as required.

For 3 months now I&#039;ve been trying to find someone anyone who has developed a working application in XMPP, or at least someone who knows something more than &quot;yeh I&#039;ve read about it&quot;.

Lets just say it&#039;s mighty thin on the ground out there.


Cheers,
Dean Collins
www.Cognation.net</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alec,</p>
<p>XMPP sounds like the saviour to all IM based applications but have you ever looked for a developer with experience in this space?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking of investing in a topic based web chat application and was originally looking 3-4 months ago at flash based applications.</p>
<p>Everyone is saying No No No you must build in XMPP to get scalability &#8211; &#8220;it the best thing since sliced bread&#8221; etc etc.</p>
<p>So I thought ok fine, might cost a little more to have developed as specialist area but I&#8217;m not looking for anything too amazing just a simple proof of concept with the ability to scale out later as required.</p>
<p>For 3 months now I&#8217;ve been trying to find someone anyone who has developed a working application in XMPP, or at least someone who knows something more than &#8220;yeh I&#8217;ve read about it&#8221;.</p>
<p>Lets just say it&#8217;s mighty thin on the ground out there.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Dean Collins<br />
<a href="http://www.Cognation.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.Cognation.net</a></p>
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