Comments on: Betamax VoIP accused of fraud http://www.saunderslog.com/2008/01/23/betamax-voip-accused-of-fraud/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=betamax-voip-accused-of-fraud An outcome-driven leader, proven technology product developer, and marketer with over 20 years of hands-on experience including start-up, small and large business environments, and the board room. This is my blog. Thu, 26 Jan 2012 17:15:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Voip Investigator http://www.saunderslog.com/2008/01/23/betamax-voip-accused-of-fraud/#comment-8929 Voip Investigator Wed, 22 Jun 2011 09:54:02 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2008/01/23/betamax-voip-accused-of-fraud/#comment-8929 Betamax, I simply think its time you guys provided your customers with a working email and also with a working Phone number. People have views and simply need you to clear them. By the way whats the sip settings for Voipzoom ? Betamax, I simply think its time you guys provided your customers with a working email and also with a working Phone number.

People have views and simply need you to clear them.

By the way whats the sip settings for Voipzoom ?

]]> By: Koffi Patrick Kodjo http://www.saunderslog.com/2008/01/23/betamax-voip-accused-of-fraud/#comment-6258 Koffi Patrick Kodjo Fri, 15 Apr 2011 07:48:19 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2008/01/23/betamax-voip-accused-of-fraud/#comment-6258 I am so amazed,why are you stealling my money on my postpay? Refund my money immediately. I am so amazed,why are you stealling my money on my postpay?
Refund my money immediately.

]]> By: ib http://www.saunderslog.com/2008/01/23/betamax-voip-accused-of-fraud/#comment-6257 ib Tue, 12 Apr 2011 16:26:03 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2008/01/23/betamax-voip-accused-of-fraud/#comment-6257 It just pulled 200Euros from my dad's MasterCard as someone obviously stole his account. It appears that they have enabled "automatic recharge" so that it would just pull the money. Also they forwarded his number to some exotic HIGH price sexy phone and just kept making the calls. He didn't just lost his credentials, so someone must been working from the inside. Until this incident he's been using it for few years with only mysterious charges for free calls. :D But still the price was good. Sadly Betamax introduced this "automatic recharge" that only allows scam and really doesn't give any real benefit. It just pulled 200Euros from my dad's MasterCard as someone obviously stole his account. It appears that they have enabled "automatic recharge" so that it would just pull the money. Also they forwarded his number to some exotic HIGH price sexy phone and just kept making the calls.

He didn't just lost his credentials, so someone must been working from the inside.

Until this incident he's been using it for few years with only mysterious charges for free calls. :D But still the price was good.

Sadly Betamax introduced this "automatic recharge" that only allows scam and really doesn't give any real benefit.

]]> By: Kirill Benkovitch http://www.saunderslog.com/2008/01/23/betamax-voip-accused-of-fraud/#comment-6256 Kirill Benkovitch Sun, 06 Mar 2011 10:49:14 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2008/01/23/betamax-voip-accused-of-fraud/#comment-6256 Please anybody ANSWER ME!! I have 3 betamax accounts: 1)100 euro disappeared and my user was deleted 2)2 other account have 10 eur,but i can not make a call,it says "you are using fraudlent betamax resseler" WHAT TO DO? Please anybody ANSWER ME!!
I have 3 betamax accounts:
1)100 euro disappeared and my user was deleted
2)2 other account have 10 eur,but i can not make a call,it says "you are using fraudlent betamax resseler"

WHAT TO DO?

]]> By: Mos http://www.saunderslog.com/2008/01/23/betamax-voip-accused-of-fraud/#comment-6255 Mos Sun, 27 Feb 2011 17:15:48 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2008/01/23/betamax-voip-accused-of-fraud/#comment-6255 Hey! open a reseller account with €300 since Dec 2010 and until today i have not been able to use it. Your service commercial & Support has not been helpful. And recently my balance has depleted by €100 with traffic from my account. I have called Customer care over 25 times and took my details but nobody contacted me. :( why????????? Hey! open a reseller account with €300 since Dec 2010 and until today i have not been able to use it. Your service commercial & Support has not been helpful. And recently my balance has depleted by €100 with traffic from my account. I have called Customer care over 25 times and took my details but nobody contacted me. :( why?????????

]]> By: james griffith http://www.saunderslog.com/2008/01/23/betamax-voip-accused-of-fraud/#comment-6254 james griffith Sat, 26 Feb 2011 15:31:33 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2008/01/23/betamax-voip-accused-of-fraud/#comment-6254 They are guilty of other forms of fraud. I've personally (and corporately) experienced their fraud. VoiceTrading and SIp Traffic are 2 of the firms we were doing business with (as of this past week). They don't charge according to their published rates. I have over 900 calls (in a few days) to one of their destinations where their published rate sheet shows that prefix at .014 but they charged .0845 a 600% overcharge. Those who use this group of VOIP providers already know you must maintain a possitive cash account with them to draw funds from, so they take the liberty of overcharging and removing the funds from your account without your ability to challenge. I have sent in documentation and emails to both of these firms as they are both guilty of fraudulent charges. You are hereby warned - they are dishonest and not a trustworthy company to do business with - you have been warned They are guilty of other forms of fraud. I've personally (and corporately) experienced their fraud. VoiceTrading and SIp Traffic are 2 of the firms we were doing business with (as of this past week). They don't charge according to their published rates. I have over 900 calls (in a few days) to one of their destinations where their published rate sheet shows that prefix at .014 but they charged .0845 a 600% overcharge. Those who use this group of VOIP providers already know you must maintain a possitive cash account with them to draw funds from, so they take the liberty of overcharging and removing the funds from your account without your ability to challenge. I have sent in documentation and emails to both of these firms as they are both guilty of fraudulent charges. You are hereby warned – they are dishonest and not a trustworthy company to do business with – you have been warned

]]> By: Natalia http://www.saunderslog.com/2008/01/23/betamax-voip-accused-of-fraud/#comment-6253 Natalia Sat, 19 Feb 2011 14:23:54 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2008/01/23/betamax-voip-accused-of-fraud/#comment-6253 The same thing. A have sent the money to Envoy Services two months ago, and still have nothing in my Voipdiscount account. The same thing. A have sent the money to Envoy Services two months ago, and still have nothing in my Voipdiscount account.

]]> By: S http://www.saunderslog.com/2008/01/23/betamax-voip-accused-of-fraud/#comment-6252 S Sun, 30 Jan 2011 05:40:28 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2008/01/23/betamax-voip-accused-of-fraud/#comment-6252 Well, I used to use them. Tha last time I bought some credit because they staterd clearly that calls to mobile phones were included in some kind of promotion. As I was unable to make a single call, i claimed to Pypal andI got a refund. Since then I got all my accounts blocked. No way to use them. They say there were fraudulent payments but of course, this is not trus. I0ve always been paying through paypal... Well, I used to use them. Tha last time I bought some credit because they staterd clearly that calls to mobile phones were included in some kind of promotion. As I was unable to make a single call, i claimed to Pypal andI got a refund. Since then I got all my accounts blocked. No way to use them. They say there were fraudulent payments but of course, this is not trus. I0ve always been paying through paypal…

]]> By: david http://www.saunderslog.com/2008/01/23/betamax-voip-accused-of-fraud/#comment-6251 david Wed, 05 Jan 2011 06:34:01 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2008/01/23/betamax-voip-accused-of-fraud/#comment-6251 I used paypal option with 12voip.com it worked fine. The service / quality can be a bit variable even with a reasonable broadband speed. Hope this helps. I used paypal option with 12voip.com it worked fine. The service / quality can be a bit variable even with a reasonable broadband speed. Hope this helps.

]]> By: Jim http://www.saunderslog.com/2008/01/23/betamax-voip-accused-of-fraud/#comment-6250 Jim Fri, 24 Dec 2010 05:55:49 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2008/01/23/betamax-voip-accused-of-fraud/#comment-6250 I also when trying to add credit get errorcode message 1200. Send voipdiscount.com requests for help and all they say is to try a different payment method. Has anyone tried using paypal as an alternative payment option? That is what I am thinking of trying. I also when trying to add credit get errorcode message 1200. Send voipdiscount.com requests for help and all they say is to try a different payment method.

Has anyone tried using paypal as an alternative payment option? That is what I am thinking of trying.

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