Comments on: Five ways mobile changes the world. Forever. http://www.saunderslog.com/2007/04/09/five-ways-mobile-changes-the-world-forever/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=five-ways-mobile-changes-the-world-forever An outcome-driven leader, proven technology product developer, and marketer with over 20 years of hands-on experience including start-up, small and large business environments, and the board room. This is my blog. Thu, 26 Jan 2012 17:15:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Alec http://www.saunderslog.com/2007/04/09/five-ways-mobile-changes-the-world-forever/#comment-4764 Alec Wed, 11 Apr 2007 16:00:56 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2007/04/09/five-ways-mobile-changes-the-world-forever/#comment-4764 ;) It needs a central intelligence to really make it work, in my opinion. Peer systems are simply too easy to bamboozle. ;) It needs a central intelligence to really make it work, in my opinion. Peer systems are simply too easy to bamboozle.

]]> By: PaulSweeney http://www.saunderslog.com/2007/04/09/five-ways-mobile-changes-the-world-forever/#comment-4763 PaulSweeney Wed, 11 Apr 2007 15:36:38 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2007/04/09/five-ways-mobile-changes-the-world-forever/#comment-4763 Alec, what I like about this is the "inter-device context". Who makes this possible? Wouldn't it be the chipmakers themselves? And who should decide what "profile" each device has in the context of other devices, and the particular real world context, well, you the user should. I used to work for a car parts company back in the early 90's. Volvo had a seat that had a number of settings to best position the driver with regards the steering wheel, and the mirror settings. On a cold day, the car set would warm up (tied to temperature readings?). When it becomes cheap enough to put sensors everywhere, and their are wireless standards that make inter-device messaging appropriate (i.e. <a href="http://www.ipunplugged.com)" rel="nofollow">www.ipunplugged.com)</a> well, then your "presence stream" and "life stream" intermingle...... beam me up scotty ;) Alec, what I like about this is the "inter-device context". Who makes this possible? Wouldn't it be the chipmakers themselves? And who should decide what "profile" each device has in the context of other devices, and the particular real world context, well, you the user should. I used to work for a car parts company back in the early 90's. Volvo had a seat that had a number of settings to best position the driver with regards the steering wheel, and the mirror settings. On a cold day, the car set would warm up (tied to temperature readings?). When it becomes cheap enough to put sensors everywhere, and their are wireless standards that make inter-device messaging appropriate (i.e. http://www.ipunplugged.com) well, then your "presence stream" and "life stream" intermingle…… beam me up scotty ;)

]]> By: Alec http://www.saunderslog.com/2007/04/09/five-ways-mobile-changes-the-world-forever/#comment-4762 Alec Mon, 09 Apr 2007 15:04:57 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2007/04/09/five-ways-mobile-changes-the-world-forever/#comment-4762 Thanks for the comment Teemu! As it happens, I am already a Jaiku member -- <a href="http://alecs.jaiku.com/" rel="nofollow">http://alecs.jaiku.com/</a>. I haven't tried the S60 version yet, though. Thanks for the comment Teemu! As it happens, I am already a Jaiku member — http://alecs.jaiku.com/. I haven't tried the S60 version yet, though.

]]> By: Teemu Kurppa http://www.saunderslog.com/2007/04/09/five-ways-mobile-changes-the-world-forever/#comment-4761 Teemu Kurppa Mon, 09 Apr 2007 14:50:47 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2007/04/09/five-ways-mobile-changes-the-world-forever/#comment-4761 Hi Alec. I read your "New Presence" article with great delight. It has many parallels to visions that we in Jaiku have. If you try out Jaiku Mobile beta for S60 phones, you can see that it already does many of the things that you list as Context Information" of "New Presence". It shares your location (via network cells), Calendar event, people nearby you (via Bluetooth device ids) and your phone's ringing profile. We have called it "Rich Presence". In fact, there's already infrastructure in Jaiku to support much more rich presence information (both "online" and "real-life" presence) to and from mobile client, that current client and web site shows. However, I think that so called automatic presence information is not powerful enough alone, but it has a add-on value in context of more active communication. In Jaiku Mobile, we augment normal phonebook information with rich presence information. In messaging with "jaikus" we enrich messages with automatic location information. One thing that both Jaiku and Twitter are lacking is a better profile managent as you call it. It's interesting to see to which direction these services evolve regarding it. Cheers, Teemu from Jaiku Hi Alec.

I read your "New Presence" article with great delight. It has many parallels to visions that we in Jaiku have. If you try out Jaiku Mobile beta for S60 phones, you can see that it already does many of the things that you list as Context Information" of "New Presence". It shares your location (via network cells), Calendar event, people nearby you (via Bluetooth device ids) and your phone's ringing profile. We have called it "Rich Presence". In fact, there's already infrastructure in Jaiku to support much more rich presence information (both "online" and "real-life" presence) to and from mobile client, that current client and web site shows.

However, I think that so called automatic presence information is not powerful enough alone, but it has a add-on value in context of more active communication. In Jaiku Mobile, we augment normal phonebook information with rich presence information. In messaging with "jaikus" we enrich messages with automatic location information.

One thing that both Jaiku and Twitter are lacking is a better profile managent as you call it. It's interesting to see to which direction these services evolve regarding it.

Cheers,
Teemu from Jaiku

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