Comments on: The W-Group: PR Noobs http://www.saunderslog.com/2006/12/27/w-group-pr-noobs/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=w-group-pr-noobs An outcome-driven leader, proven technology product developer, and marketer with over 20 years of hands-on experience including start-up, small and large business environments, and the board room. This is my blog. Thu, 26 Jan 2012 17:15:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: color brochure printing http://www.saunderslog.com/2006/12/27/w-group-pr-noobs/#comment-4256 color brochure printing Mon, 21 May 2007 16:02:56 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2006/12/27/w-group-pr-noobs/#comment-4256 Scam! Scam! Scam! It's a "long con". Stay away I was burned. Scam! Scam! Scam! It’s a “long con”. Stay away I was burned.

]]> By: Digital Common Sense » How NOT to get your product/solution noticed http://www.saunderslog.com/2006/12/27/w-group-pr-noobs/#comment-4255 Digital Common Sense » How NOT to get your product/solution noticed Fri, 29 Dec 2006 21:47:51 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2006/12/27/w-group-pr-noobs/#comment-4255 [...] I recently shared in the pleasure Alec Saunders enjoyed receiving some unsolicited mail from a PR group about a service offering. He wrote a follow-up note here. Alec views is as spam, and I don’t disagree. On the other hand, in my role as an analyst, blogger, and generally outspoken pain in the ass, I take most of these unsolicited emails with a grain of salt. They quickly go to the bit bucket without comment. [...] [...] I recently shared in the pleasure Alec Saunders enjoyed receiving some unsolicited mail from a PR group about a service offering. He wrote a follow-up note here. Alec views is as spam, and I don’t disagree. On the other hand, in my role as an analyst, blogger, and generally outspoken pain in the ass, I take most of these unsolicited emails with a grain of salt. They quickly go to the bit bucket without comment. [...]

]]> By: -- Alec Saunders .LOG http://www.saunderslog.com/2006/12/27/w-group-pr-noobs/#comment-4254 -- Alec Saunders .LOG Fri, 29 Dec 2006 03:41:38 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2006/12/27/w-group-pr-noobs/#comment-4254 [...] Got home tonight, had a lovely ham dinner, and settled down to the PC with a pint of beer in my hand.  I just about spit my beer out my nose at what I read next.  Remember that fellow Thomas Scriven? The W-Group spammer I wrote about yesterday, who sent me a pitch letter marked confidential?  Well, here’s what he wrote back next: [...] [...] Got home tonight, had a lovely ham dinner, and settled down to the PC with a pint of beer in my hand.  I just about spit my beer out my nose at what I read next.  Remember that fellow Thomas Scriven? The W-Group spammer I wrote about yesterday, who sent me a pitch letter marked confidential?  Well, here’s what he wrote back next: [...]

]]> By: Moshe Maeir http://www.saunderslog.com/2006/12/27/w-group-pr-noobs/#comment-4253 Moshe Maeir Thu, 28 Dec 2006 21:56:32 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2006/12/27/w-group-pr-noobs/#comment-4253 Alec, I call it a scam, you can call it a loophole if you prefer. The fact is that Congress mandated the Universal Service Fund as a way to bring equal service to rural areas, not so some slick operator can make a quick buck. Sure the people in Iowa also benefit, but that doesn't make it right, unless you believe in a Robin Hood regime. The bottom line is that US taxpayer money is being used to subsidize international calls - even though it is not in the US Government budget that was approved by Congress.... Alec,
I call it a scam, you can call it a loophole if you prefer. The fact is that Congress mandated the Universal Service Fund as a way to bring equal service to rural areas, not so some slick operator can make a quick buck. Sure the people in Iowa also benefit, but that doesn’t make it right, unless you believe in a Robin Hood regime.

The bottom line is that US taxpayer money is being used to subsidize international calls – even though it is not in the US Government budget that was approved by Congress….

]]> By: Alec http://www.saunderslog.com/2006/12/27/w-group-pr-noobs/#comment-4252 Alec Thu, 28 Dec 2006 15:29:32 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2006/12/27/w-group-pr-noobs/#comment-4252 Moshe -- I am not sure I agree it's a scam. I've spoken with a few folks in the know, and certainly these models have been very good for the iowa communications industry. Moshe — I am not sure I agree it’s a scam. I’ve spoken with a few folks in the know, and certainly these models have been very good for the iowa communications industry.

]]> By: Alec http://www.saunderslog.com/2006/12/27/w-group-pr-noobs/#comment-4251 Alec Thu, 28 Dec 2006 15:28:42 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2006/12/27/w-group-pr-noobs/#comment-4251 Eric -- alecs is my email ID. It wasn't a mispelling. It was a mail merge with a list he bought some where. This guy spammed me. That's what happened to the luuuuuuv :) Loopy -- I find the 712 area code models fascinating. Any PR might be good PR, but he could have had BETTER by not irritating me. C'est la vie. Eric — alecs is my email ID. It wasn’t a mispelling. It was a mail merge with a list he bought some where. This guy spammed me. That’s what happened to the luuuuuuv :)

Loopy — I find the 712 area code models fascinating. Any PR might be good PR, but he could have had BETTER by not irritating me. C’est la vie.

]]> By: Eric http://www.saunderslog.com/2006/12/27/w-group-pr-noobs/#comment-4248 Eric Thu, 28 Dec 2006 03:55:20 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2006/12/27/w-group-pr-noobs/#comment-4248 I tried their number -- 712-338-8849. It actually worked quite well, and the call was a lot clearer than using Futurephone. I also got through on the first try, and on every try, unlike Futurephone and all too familiar message of "Please try again later." Also, Alec -- blogging has made you one SOUR GUY! haha..he just mispelled your name with an S, obv by accident! What happened to the luuuuuuuuv I tried their number — 712-338-8849. It actually worked quite well, and the call was a lot clearer than using Futurephone. I also got through on the first try, and on every try, unlike Futurephone and all too familiar message of “Please try again later.”

Also, Alec — blogging has made you one SOUR GUY! haha..he just mispelled your name with an S, obv by accident!

What happened to the luuuuuuuuv

]]> By: Moshe Maeir http://www.saunderslog.com/2006/12/27/w-group-pr-noobs/#comment-4250 Moshe Maeir Thu, 28 Dec 2006 03:06:41 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2006/12/27/w-group-pr-noobs/#comment-4250 Alec, As the old saying goes - it doesn't matter what you write about me as long as you spell my name right... I know for a fact that Futurephone and others are quite successful in emigrant communities such as NY. However they have limited scalability and therefore are not a major threat to the Big Guys. I wonder when Congress will catch on to this scam. Sure it is legal, but in my mind it is still a scam. If it is true that Efax also routes thru Iowa - they ain't doing bad as they charge $16.95 for a DID and get away with it! Alec,
As the old saying goes – it doesn't matter what you write about me as long as you spell my name right…

I know for a fact that Futurephone and others are quite successful in emigrant communities such as NY. However
they have limited scalability and therefore are not a major threat to the Big Guys. I wonder when Congress will catch on to this scam. Sure it is legal, but in my mind it is still a scam.

If it is true that Efax also routes thru Iowa – they ain't doing bad as they charge $16.95 for a DID and get away with it!

]]> By: Loopy http://www.saunderslog.com/2006/12/27/w-group-pr-noobs/#comment-4249 Loopy Thu, 28 Dec 2006 02:26:55 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2006/12/27/w-group-pr-noobs/#comment-4249 Alec, I take my hat off to the guys. They have cornered an influential name in the industry, they have been creative [probably been using Seth Godin tactics] and they have gotten a piece written about them [regardless of the value of the product/service]. Sweet :0) Alec,

I take my hat off to the guys. They have cornered an influential name in the industry, they have been creative [probably been using Seth Godin tactics] and they have gotten a piece written about them [regardless of the value of the product/service].

Sweet :0)

]]> By: Ken Camp http://www.saunderslog.com/2006/12/27/w-group-pr-noobs/#comment-4247 Ken Camp Wed, 27 Dec 2006 21:29:22 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2006/12/27/w-group-pr-noobs/#comment-4247 I got the same email pitch. Looked it over and tagged it as spam crap and tossed them into the filter. I debated posting something, but didn't figure they deserved any attention at all with that shabby approach. Actually, I was just keeping their confidence... ;-) I got the same email pitch. Looked it over and tagged it as spam crap and tossed them into the filter. I debated posting something, but didn't figure they deserved any attention at all with that shabby approach. Actually, I was just keeping their confidence…
;-)

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