Comments on: Give Me Simplicity or Give Me… http://www.saunderslog.com/2006/10/22/give-me-simplicity-or-give-me/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=give-me-simplicity-or-give-me An outcome-driven leader, proven technology product developer, and marketer with over 20 years of hands-on experience including start-up, small and large business environments, and the board room. This is my blog. Thu, 26 Jan 2012 17:15:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: amber http://www.saunderslog.com/2006/10/22/give-me-simplicity-or-give-me/#comment-3807 amber Thu, 05 Apr 2007 14:35:41 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2006/10/22/give-me-simplicity-or-give-me/#comment-3807 Check out <a href="http://www.koolim.com" rel="nofollow">www.koolim.com</a>. Check out http://www.koolim.com.

]]> By: Kanti Purohit http://www.saunderslog.com/2006/10/22/give-me-simplicity-or-give-me/#comment-3806 Kanti Purohit Tue, 24 Oct 2006 10:55:15 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2006/10/22/give-me-simplicity-or-give-me/#comment-3806 Alec: All my life, I have been evangelizing "simplicity, simplicity, simplicity" like "location, location, location" in real estate. My latest: Make PBXs mass marketeble (like routers and PCs). So I agree with you. But, why toss Hullo? It lets ANY of your phones (landline or cell) connect to ANY phone connected to PSTN (cell or landline) in US and Canada. If "...but not enough people I know use them and all of them are trying to uniquely capture me into their network." are your criteria, Hullo exceeds both of them compared to Skype and MSN: (1) more people (300 million - you probably have a more accurate count) have landline and cell phones in US and Canada combined and; (2) they don't lock you into anything. True, if you want to IM, you need either Skype or MSN...but you already chose to have more than one :) PS: A note of thanks. I started using Hullo after I read your college student analysis and I love it. What was a pleasnat surpised for me was that the phonebook was NOT local. When I logged into Hullo on another PC, there it was, same as on the other PC. Alec:

All my life, I have been evangelizing "simplicity, simplicity, simplicity" like "location, location, location" in real estate. My latest: Make PBXs mass marketeble (like routers and PCs). So I agree with you.

But, why toss Hullo?

It lets ANY of your phones (landline or cell) connect to ANY phone connected to PSTN (cell or landline) in US and Canada.

If "…but not enough people I know use them and all of them are trying to uniquely capture me into their network." are your criteria, Hullo exceeds both of them compared to Skype and MSN: (1) more people (300 million – you probably have a more accurate count) have landline and cell phones in US and Canada combined and; (2) they don't lock you into anything.

True, if you want to IM, you need either Skype or MSN…but you already chose to have more than one :)

PS: A note of thanks. I started using Hullo after I read your college student analysis and I love it. What was a pleasnat surpised for me was that the phonebook was NOT local. When I logged into Hullo on another PC, there it was, same as on the other PC.

]]> By: Alec http://www.saunderslog.com/2006/10/22/give-me-simplicity-or-give-me/#comment-3805 Alec Sun, 22 Oct 2006 20:37:12 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2006/10/22/give-me-simplicity-or-give-me/#comment-3805 Andy, I am totally with you. I want to be able to chat with someone on AOL using Sightspeed, and have us both escalate to Sightspeed when we want to do video, because AOL doesn't handle it yet. I want to start a text conversation on Yahoo, and move to a conference call on Skype, seamlessly. The standards provide for this... but the vendors won't implement it. As for MSN -- as you might imagine I have a long history there and a substantial contact list there. Give me interoperable solutions, and I will sell everyone I know on them. But until that happens, why should any of my friends switch from one proprietary lock-in to another? Andy, I am totally with you. I want to be able to chat with someone on AOL using Sightspeed, and have us both escalate to Sightspeed when we want to do video, because AOL doesn't handle it yet. I want to start a text conversation on Yahoo, and move to a conference call on Skype, seamlessly. The standards provide for this… but the vendors won't implement it.

As for MSN — as you might imagine I have a long history there and a substantial contact list there. Give me interoperable solutions, and I will sell everyone I know on them. But until that happens, why should any of my friends switch from one proprietary lock-in to another?

]]> By: Andy Abramson http://www.saunderslog.com/2006/10/22/give-me-simplicity-or-give-me/#comment-3804 Andy Abramson Sun, 22 Oct 2006 19:25:49 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2006/10/22/give-me-simplicity-or-give-me/#comment-3804 Alec, While I wish I could jetison a lot too, I can't. Too many different networks that too many different people use. But I wouldn't be keeping MSN over some of the ones you tossed. I just wish more interoperability was around, that way, we can all use what we like, and still chat and talk to those who use different apps. Alec,

While I wish I could jetison a lot too, I can't. Too many different networks that too many different people use. But I wouldn't be keeping MSN over some of the ones you tossed. I just wish more interoperability was around, that way, we can all use what we like, and still chat and talk to those who use different apps.

]]> By: Alec http://www.saunderslog.com/2006/10/22/give-me-simplicity-or-give-me/#comment-3803 Alec Sun, 22 Oct 2006 15:54:35 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2006/10/22/give-me-simplicity-or-give-me/#comment-3803 Paul - unfortunately I don't know of such a tool. If I did, I might have used it rather than taking the drastic steps I did. I do know this --> many applications that need network access block on startup unnecessarily long before they determine that network access isn't available. Gizmo Project is one such. Paul – unfortunately I don't know of such a tool. If I did, I might have used it rather than taking the drastic steps I did. I do know this –> many applications that need network access block on startup unnecessarily long before they determine that network access isn't available. Gizmo Project is one such.

]]> By: Alec http://www.saunderslog.com/2006/10/22/give-me-simplicity-or-give-me/#comment-3802 Alec Sun, 22 Oct 2006 15:53:07 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2006/10/22/give-me-simplicity-or-give-me/#comment-3802 Hey Rob, it's not impossible. I have an awful lot invested in PC's -- there are at least a half dozen around the house, for instance -- but I don't have a closed mind. I actually interviewed for a senior position in the MacOS group about 5 years ago, but in the end we didn't want to move to Silicon Valley. Pigs may fly yet. Hey Rob, it's not impossible. I have an awful lot invested in PC's — there are at least a half dozen around the house, for instance — but I don't have a closed mind. I actually interviewed for a senior position in the MacOS group about 5 years ago, but in the end we didn't want to move to Silicon Valley. Pigs may fly yet.

]]> By: PaulSweeney http://www.saunderslog.com/2006/10/22/give-me-simplicity-or-give-me/#comment-3801 PaulSweeney Sun, 22 Oct 2006 11:48:22 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2006/10/22/give-me-simplicity-or-give-me/#comment-3801 Sound like you have just had the same experience as "the average user". Its probably going to be the case that those outside the walls will have to consider themselves the "3rd way". Google-world's Talk seems a bit of a duck now to the average user (I think there is a great behind the scene standards play for them in this space still though); Yahoo-MSN have lined up, so the 3rd way might be a la Meebo, OpenID, ect. BTW: can you recommend a tool that I can run on my machine to tell me what's the big hold up? my bootup times are getting close to the ones you wrote about! Sound like you have just had the same experience as "the average user". Its probably going to be the case that those outside the walls will have to consider themselves the "3rd way". Google-world's Talk seems a bit of a duck now to the average user (I think there is a great behind the scene standards play for them in this space still though); Yahoo-MSN have lined up, so the 3rd way might be a la Meebo, OpenID, ect.

BTW: can you recommend a tool that I can run on my machine to tell me what's the big hold up? my bootup times are getting close to the ones you wrote about!

]]> By: Rob Hyndman http://www.saunderslog.com/2006/10/22/give-me-simplicity-or-give-me/#comment-3800 Rob Hyndman Sun, 22 Oct 2006 10:44:58 +0000 http://saunderslog.com/2006/10/22/give-me-simplicity-or-give-me/#comment-3800 "Give me simplicity. Give me ease of use. Give me a whole experience." Sounds like an anthem for Apple Computer :) Seriously, after over 20 years of trying to manage complexity - and priding myself on my ability to figure anything out when it came to Windows, I surrendered a few months ago and bought a Mac. Now my whites are whiter, everything is shiny and new, and I'm a brand new man :) Well, I do have much more time, and I spend less time banging my head against the wall. I suspect pigs will fly before you switch, Alec, but my impression so far is very positive. "Give me simplicity. Give me ease of use. Give me a whole experience."

Sounds like an anthem for Apple Computer :)

Seriously, after over 20 years of trying to manage complexity – and priding myself on my ability to figure anything out when it came to Windows, I surrendered a few months ago and bought a Mac. Now my whites are whiter, everything is shiny and new, and I'm a brand new man :)

Well, I do have much more time, and I spend less time banging my head against the wall.

I suspect pigs will fly before you switch, Alec, but my impression so far is very positive.

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